Comments on: Shut up already. http://www.finkweb.org/shut-up-already/ your friend Rat Fink fires the neurons at random Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:10:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Rat Fink http://www.finkweb.org/shut-up-already/#comment-1214 Rat Fink Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:25:28 +0000 http://www.finkweb.org/?p=2939#comment-1214 <strong>Stein</strong> - your take is interesting, and it made me think. When I think of the Rat Pack and Vegas, I think of 3 guys onstage, making blue jokes, and basically goofing off during their tunes. They loved getting up and doing/saying everything they couldn't do/say on their squeaky clean television shows and albums. I think the preference of Manilow to Sinatra, Davis, Bennett and Martin was more age-oriented than anything (though I was definitely an exception to that rule). Back in the 70s, Sinatra et al were all "old men" to most people my age, and Barry Manilow was young and new and amazing. Like now...who'd prefer Tony Orlando or Tom Jones or Englebert Humperdinck to Beyoncé or Kanye West? <em>Generally</em>, meaning not always, people my age. Over the last 30 years, I've seen Vegas change a lot, and not only musically. From comedians to magicians to animal shows to Beatles retrospectives to bringing frickin' Broadway out there, it's all gone with the times. <strong>PK</strong> - howdy gerfren! Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. I did read about the judge including other kinds of music...I just think he made an example out of Barry that was unfair. Geez, I should get free tickets to his next show! Stein – your take is interesting, and it made me think. When I think of the Rat Pack and Vegas, I think of 3 guys onstage, making blue jokes, and basically goofing off during their tunes. They loved getting up and doing/saying everything they couldn’t do/say on their squeaky clean television shows and albums.

I think the preference of Manilow to Sinatra, Davis, Bennett and Martin was more age-oriented than anything (though I was definitely an exception to that rule). Back in the 70s, Sinatra et al were all “old men” to most people my age, and Barry Manilow was young and new and amazing. Like now…who’d prefer Tony Orlando or Tom Jones or Englebert Humperdinck to Beyoncé or Kanye West? Generally, meaning not always, people my age.

Over the last 30 years, I’ve seen Vegas change a lot, and not only musically. From comedians to magicians to animal shows to Beatles retrospectives to bringing frickin’ Broadway out there, it’s all gone with the times.

PK – howdy gerfren! Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. I did read about the judge including other kinds of music…I just think he made an example out of Barry that was unfair. Geez, I should get free tickets to his next show!

]]> By: Stein http://www.finkweb.org/shut-up-already/#comment-1213 Stein Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:08:09 +0000 http://www.finkweb.org/?p=2939#comment-1213 I'm not a big fan of "Bairly Manenough" due to what he subsequently did to Vegas music. I think he has something to do with the downfall of musical styles of the Rat Pack and such. Maybe not, but I know that people started preferring Manilow to Sinatra, Bennett, etc. I don't think Barry is particularly bad as a musician. I merely have beef with what his musical ability did to the old styles of Vegas performance. I’m not a big fan of “Bairly Manenough” due to what he subsequently did to Vegas music. I think he has something to do with the downfall of musical styles of the Rat Pack and such. Maybe not, but I know that people started preferring Manilow to Sinatra, Bennett, etc. I don’t think Barry is particularly bad as a musician. I merely have beef with what his musical ability did to the old styles of Vegas performance.

]]> By: PK Pudlin http://www.finkweb.org/shut-up-already/#comment-1210 PK Pudlin Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:03:58 +0000 http://www.finkweb.org/?p=2939#comment-1210 I confess: I actually saw Manilow in concert at the Hollywood Bowl in 1977 - and I went there on purpose. I had a few of his albums and enjoyed his music then and believe he is largely unsung and unjustly vilified today. My understanding of the case is that Manilow's music was just one part of the teens' 'punishment'- there were many other past artists whose music was included in the 2 hours (?) that they were required to listen, including Frankie. Holiday greetings to all! PK I confess: I actually saw Manilow in concert at the Hollywood Bowl in 1977 – and I went there on purpose. I had a few of his albums and enjoyed his music then and believe he is largely unsung and unjustly vilified today.

My understanding of the case is that Manilow’s music was just one part of the teens’ ‘punishment’- there were many other past artists whose music was included in the 2 hours (?) that they were required to listen, including Frankie.

Holiday greetings to all!
PK

]]> By: Rat Fink http://www.finkweb.org/shut-up-already/#comment-1209 Rat Fink Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:38:42 +0000 http://www.finkweb.org/?p=2939#comment-1209 Jan - I saw that the case was in Colorado; I wasn't sure how close to you it was. I hear you about the judge being creative - I'm all for that. I just had an issue with him choosing a specific artist to signify "bad" music. Play country or jazz or Broadway or whatever the kid hated, but don't zero in on just one singer. Truthfully, there's really no music that I really hate, other than rap that targets women and cops. I'm pretty easy; Lars played in a bigtime metal band a few years back, and I kind of enjoyed it. Although...I might not enjoy Mexican polka music. HA I loved "Ready to Take a Chance." I even liked "It's a Miracle." Speaking of great singers...as I make the peach pie this morning, I'm on <a href="http://www.pandora.com" rel="nofollow">Pandora.com</a>. Have you ever been there? It's fabulous. Do a search on "Frank Sinatra Christmas." I have a day's worth of Christmas songs by Frank, Johnny Mathis (I love him), Tony Bennett, old Bing Crosby, Ella, Perry Como...all the greats. It's wonderful! Have a great Thanksgiving, my friend. Jan – I saw that the case was in Colorado; I wasn’t sure how close to you it was.

I hear you about the judge being creative – I’m all for that. I just had an issue with him choosing a specific artist to signify “bad” music. Play country or jazz or Broadway or whatever the kid hated, but don’t zero in on just one singer.

Truthfully, there’s really no music that I really hate, other than rap that targets women and cops. I’m pretty easy; Lars played in a bigtime metal band a few years back, and I kind of enjoyed it.

Although…I might not enjoy Mexican polka music. HA

I loved “Ready to Take a Chance.” I even liked “It’s a Miracle.”

Speaking of great singers…as I make the peach pie this morning, I’m on Pandora.com. Have you ever been there? It’s fabulous. Do a search on “Frank Sinatra Christmas.” I have a day’s worth of Christmas songs by Frank, Johnny Mathis (I love him), Tony Bennett, old Bing Crosby, Ella, Perry Como…all the greats. It’s wonderful!

Have a great Thanksgiving, my friend.

]]> By: Jan http://www.finkweb.org/shut-up-already/#comment-1208 Jan Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:01:24 +0000 http://www.finkweb.org/?p=2939#comment-1208 The town that made headlines for subjecting people to Manilow music is about 5 miles north of where I live. There is a heavy hispanic population in Ft. Lupton, and a popular pastime with some of the people is to play their music from their cars really loud, but the music is very different culturally. The best way to describe is mexican polka music, heavy on the tuba. It is really annoying. I think the judge is being creative. If I was abusing the noise ordinance, I would pull every hair out of my arm if I was subjected to the music I described. Everyone has a style of music they can't stand. What is yours? Oh, and by the way, Manilow was my hero as a teen in the 70's. I thought he had some cool songs. The one that I really liked was "Ready to Take A Chance Again." The town that made headlines for subjecting people to Manilow music is about 5 miles north of where I live. There is a heavy hispanic population in Ft. Lupton, and a popular pastime with some of the people is to play their music from their cars really loud, but the music is very different culturally. The best way to describe is mexican polka music, heavy on the tuba. It is really annoying. I think the judge is being creative. If I was abusing the noise ordinance, I would pull every hair out of my arm if I was subjected to the music I described. Everyone has a style of music they can’t stand. What is yours?

Oh, and by the way, Manilow was my hero as a teen in the 70′s. I thought he had some cool songs. The one that I really liked was “Ready to Take A Chance Again.”

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